Tudor, Katherine

Abt 1535 - 1591  (~ 56 years)

• Name	Tudor, Katherine
  Born	Abt 1535	Of Denbighshire, Wales
  Gender	Female
  Died	27 Sep 1591	Llanyfydd, Wales
  Person ID	I08502	My Genealogy
  Last Modified	17 Jun 2015

  
  

  Family	Thelwell, Edward,   b. Abt 1550, Of Plas-y- Ward, Denbighshire, Wales ,   bur. 29 Jul 1610, Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales  (Age ~ 60 years)
  Married	Abt 1583	Wales
  Family ID	F02581	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

• Notes

  THE MAGAZINE OP THE HONOURABLE SOCIETY OF CYMMRODORION 40 VOL. XL. LONDON : ISSUED BY THE SOCIETY, NEW STONE BUILDINGS, 64, CHANCERY LANE, 1929. .....More definite information is available when we come tò the marriage of Katheryn with her first husband, John Salusbury, son and heir of Sir John Salusbury of Llew enni, though there is some uncertainty as to the course of events in regard to the marriage. The settlement deed is dated llth February, 1556/7, when Katheryn was 22 years of age. The deed says " a marriage had and solemnized between John and Catherine Salusbury." In the settlement Sir John Salusbury covenants that the said John and Katheryn " shall go together as husband and wife between this and the feast of Christmas." The marriage ' had and solemnized ' was probably a child marriage, which was to be consummated between the date of the deed and the next ensuing Christmas....John Salusbury died in 1566, his father, Sir John, being still alive. The exact date of his death is uncertain. His will, dated May l0th, was admitted for probate on July 24th, but two documents, dated respectively June 20th and July 12th, 1566, describe Katheryn as a widow, and two sons, Thomas and John, are mentioned. Both documents deal with the settlement of Katheryn's estates, which were vested in trustees for Thomas Salusbury, or, he failing, for his brother John. The date of John Salusbury's death was therefore between May lOth, the date of his will.... Sir Richard Clough lived mostly abroad, at Antwerp, where he was concerned in business for Sir Thomas Gresham, his partner. A letter from Gresham, 4th April, 1566, to Sir Wm. Cecil says : - "I have written to my factor Clough to come home these hollydaies ". Here we have evidence that Clough came over from Antwerp about the time of John Salusbury's death, evidence confirmed by the absence of any letters from him to Gresham until some months later, when the correspondence was resumed. Clough was at this time engaged in building operations at his house in Denbighshire, and almost certainly would visit his home. He may not have proposed to the widow on the occasion of her first husband's funeral, but it is probable that before he returned to Antwerp there was an understanding, which resulted in a marriage in the following year...Sir Richard Clough was in Antwerp up to about the middle of April, 1567, when he came home. He was married to Katheryn, and was with her on a visit to Sir Thomas Gresham, in London, by the sixth of May. Katheryn's second marriage took place within a year of her first husband's death ....Sir Richard Clough and his wife returned to Antwerp in May, 1567, and, after a visit to Spain, were back at Antwerp by July of the same year. They continued to reside there until May, 1569, when Clough made a visit to London, and sailed from there to Hamburg, where he resided until his death in the following year...Two daughters were born to the Cloughs during their brief married life - Anne (1568), who became the wife of Roger Salusbury, and Mary (1569), who married William Wynn of Melai. ...The date of Katheryn's marriage with Maurice Wynn is not known, but it was before January, 1573. Wynn had buried two wives, and Katheryn two husbands. By this third marriage she became the step-mother of the famous Sir John Wynn of Gwydir, the author of "The History of the Gieydir Famiìy" ...There is a document among the Llewenni papers, dated 20th September, 1574, two years or thereabouts after Katheryn became the wife of Maurice Wynn, which throws an interesting side-light on the lady's matrimonial activities. It is an agreement between Sir John Salusbury and his wife Lady Jane Salusbury, and Maurice Wynn for a marriage between one or other of Katheryn's sons by her first husband and Margaret, daughter of Maurice Wynn, or, she failing, any other of Wynn's daughters. Thomas Salusbury was about ten years of age when the agreement was made, and Margaret Wynn was about the same age or possibly younger; she was Wynn's fourth child by his wife Mary, dìaughter of Gruffyrìrì Rys, by whom he had thirteen children, ...It was a child marriage to be confirmed and consummated later, ....Maurice Wynn died in August, 1580, and Katheryn was a widow for the third time. There were two children of the Wynn marriage, Edward and Jane........No documents are available to show what happened during the period between March, 1581, and January, 1583. Much may be conjectured, for a draft has recently come to light of articles of agreement dated at Berain on the fifth of January, 1583, for a double marriage. The parties are Thomas Salusbury of Llewenni (Katheryn's brother-in-law), and John Wynn of Gwydir (her step-son), of the one part, and Simon Thelwall of Plâs y Ward and his son and heir, Edward, of the other part. Katheryn was to become the wife of Edward Thelwall, and her daughter, Jane Wynn, the wife of his son and heir, Simon Thelwall, who was born in 1570 and was therefore twelve years of age Jane Wynn was under ten years - another child marriage. Jane Wynn was to receive a dowry of £400 on her marriage with Simon, "or, if he die, with either of his brothers Herbert and William respectively". Three generations of Thelwalls were living when this agreement was drawn up, Simon the elder, his son Edward, and his son Simon the younger...Simon Thelwall senior, of Plâs y Ward, was a person of some importance in his day. He was born in 1526, the eldest son of Richard Thelwall of Plâs y Ward, admitted to the Inner Temple 23rd February, 1556, and called to the Bar 8th February, 1568, M.P. for Denbigh 1553 and 1571, for Denbighshire 1563-7, and High Sheriff 1572. He was one of the Council of the Marches, Deputy Justice of Chester 1576 and 1579, and Vice Justice of Chester 1580 and 1584. He married Alice, daughter of Robert Salusbury of Rug and Bachymbyd, and died 1586. If these dates can be accepted, Simon Thelwall senior was only nine years older than Katheryn, and her fourth husband must have been her junior by some years. He was a widower, with three sons, the eldest, born in 1570, being the prospective husband of Katheryn's daughter, Jane Wynn. ....A few months later, February, 1585/6, a daughter was born to Thomas and Margaret Salusbury, and an agreement, dated the tenth of February, was executed between Thomas Salusbury of Illewenni and John Wynn of Gwydir, " in consideration of a marriage already solemnized", etc.... On the death of his father Edward Thelwall(1586) became possessed of Plâs y Ward, whither in due course he and his wife went to reside......It has been observed that although the first Lord Herbert of Cherbury resided for a time at Plâs y Ward he makes no mention of Katheryn in his Autobiography. He was sent when nine years of age to learn Welsh from Edward Thelwall. This was about the year 1592, when Katheryn had been dead at least a year, and it is not surprising that, writing many years later, his recollection of his residence with Edward Thelwall contains no reference to her.