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    Gore, Barbare

    Female Abt 1548 - 1614  (~ 66 years)


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    • Name Gore, Barbare 
      Born Abt 1548  Of Nether Wallop, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
      Gender Female 
      Buried 03 Jan 1613/14  Farley Chamberlayne, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
      Person ID I04743  My Genealogy
      Last Modified 16 May 2015 

      Family 1 Twyne, Thomas,   b. Of St. Valery, Winchester, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 03.1565/66, Wanson, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
      Married Abt 1562  England Find all individuals with events at this location 
      Family ID F02134  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

      Family 2 St. John, William Thomas,   c. 1 Aug 1538, Farley, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 18 Apr 1609, Farley Chamberlayne, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 70 years) 
      Married Abt 1568  England Find all individuals with events at this location 
      Children 
       1. St. John, Mary,   b. Of Farley Chamberlayne, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [Natural]
       2. St. John, Jane,   b. Of Farley Chamberlayne, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [Natural]
       3. St. John, William,   b. Of Farley Chamberlayne, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [Natural]
       4. St. John, Henry,   b. Abt 1568, Of Farley Chamberlayne, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1621, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 53 years)
       5. St. John, Barbara,   b. Abt 1570, Of Farley Chamberlayne, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
       6. St. John, Elizabeth,   b. Abt 1576, Of Farley, Hampshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 28 Dec 1603, Speen, Newbury, Berkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 27 years)
      Family ID F01131  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    • Notes 
      • Notes and Queries Feb., 1918.

        BARBARA GORE.

        (12 S, ii. 89, 137, 251, 296, 518.)

        I THINK those Hampshire subscribers to 4 N. & Q.' who have followed the various communications to its pages on the above
        subject will be glad to know that one of the puzzles has been most satisfactorily solved by Mr. H. A. Pitman, who kindly forwarded
        to me the following notes, with permission to reproduce them.

        In an article on Sir William Ogle and Sarah Stewkeley (12 S. ii. 252) was raised the question as to the identity of " Barbara Gore," whose arms,* Or, three bulls' heads caboshed sable, a crescent on a crescent for difference, are impaled with those of her husband in Farley Chamberlayne Church.
        Mr. Pitman says on this subject :

        "I believe there can be little doubt that William St. John's wife Barbara was the daughter of Nicholas Gore of Nether Wallop, who, according to the ' Victoria History of Hampshire '(vol. iv. p. 528), acquired the Manor of Gar-logs in Nether Wallop about the middle of the sixteenth century. It descended to his son and heir Richard, who conveyed it to his brother William, and it remained in the Gore family till about 1778."

        In a Chancery suit, preserved in the Record Office, is the following bill to Sir Nicholas Bacon. It is undated, but, since he deceased in 1579, the suit would be between 1558 and 1579. ' Chancery Proceedings,' Ser. II. 142, 72 :

        " Purdue c. Gore : Orator Symon Purdue. Whereas Nicholas Gore of Nether Wallop, gent., owned divers leases, goods, and chattels, worth 2,000?., and particularly a farm called Berry Court, and land called ' Garlogge,' in Nether Wallop.. ..Nicholas made his will, and devised the residue of his goods to his eldest son Richard Gore, and .to be executor."


        The testator provided that if Richard Gore let his estates, William Gore, his second son, should enter.

        " Your orator was a bondsman for the execution of the will. Richard Gore has let part of the land, contrary to the will, and so your orator
        is in danger of the bond being put in force against him."

        Defendant, Richard Gore, answers that Dorothy, late wife of Nicholas, married the complainant. According to ' The History
        of Hampshire,' Richard " conveyed the property to his brother William."

        In an Inquisition post mortem made at Calne, Wiltshire, on Sept. 24 in the 32nd of Queen Elizabeth :

        " After the death of William Gore. Jurors say that he was seized of a messuage in the Manor of Newton Tony and died at Wallop on the
        llth of November, 1587, and that William Gore is his son and next heir and was aged sixteen at the death of his father " (writ dated May 5, 1590).

        In the will of this William Gore (proved 1588, P.C.C. 37 Rutland) he appointed as "one of its executors " his son William Gore, and
        John Pitman of Quarley, and Thomas Ely, clerk, of Nether Wallop, its supervisors.* At the end of the will is a note in Latin, dated
        May 10, 1588, to the effect that, as William Gore the younger and his wife, Margaret Read, were both under the age of twenty-one, probate was granted to William St. John, the husband of the sister of the testator, William Gore, and to Leonard Ely of Wonston. one of the trustees.
        In a Chancery suit Gore v. Pitman (Ser. II. 240, 99), dated Dec. 2, 1592, " William Gore of Nether Wallop, gent., one of the executors of William Gore, his father," pleads :

        " Your orator married Margaret Read, and John Pitman, father of Joan, wife of William Gore, the testator, and one Thomas Ely, who
        married the daughter of said John, and one Leonard Ely, being trustees of the testator, have combined with William St. John, and John Purdue, who married with Joan, the testator's wife," &c.

        From the fact that " the younger children of William Gore " were " John, Nicholas, Richard, and William," it is surmised that William the son and heir was by a previous wife. Testator's daughters, " Agnes, Elizabeth, Barbara, and Margery," were given 600. each.

        All the above information, so kindly supplied and arranged by Mr. H. A. Pitman, will be new and very welcome to Hampshire

        * See ' Genealogical Gleanings in England,*
        by H. F. Waters. Boston, 1901.
        12 8. III. FEB. 3, 1917.] ,NOTES AND QUERIES.

        genealogists, and definitely establishes the parentage of Barbara, wife of William St. John. Moreover, it seems probable that she was related to the family of Chamberlain, and was the sister of that " Thomas Gore of Wallop" (12 S. ii. 251) whom Alderman Richard Chamberlain of St. Olave's, Old Jewry, in his will dated 1558 (*), described as " my loving and friendly cousin," to whom he deputed the bringing up of his younger son John Chamberlain, b. 1553, d. 1627 (" the Elizabethan letter writer").

        The nuncupative will of " Thomas Gore of Wallop " was dated July 8, 1569 (proved P.C.C. 39 Lyons, Dec. 2, 1570) : " I Thomas Gore, gent., late of Wallop, being in perfect memory and about to go from Wallop into Dorsetshire.. ." If it be his fortune to die before his return to Wallop, then his brother Richard Gore should have all the money due to him from John Purdue, and all such legacies as were bequeathed to him by his father Nicholas Gore in land. Said Richard to pay his debts, and none of his other brothers and sisters should have any of his goods or legacies.

        It may, therefore, be deduced that Nicholas Gore, dead before July, 1569, left sons Richard (alive 1569), William (died 1587),
        and Thomas (died 1569-70). Their sister Barbara was first married to Thomas Twyne of Xorton St. Valery, in the parish of Wonston near Winchester, who died there in 1566, leaving two daughters his coheirs. Her second marriage to William St. John took place before 1574, when the latter's father mentioned " Barbara, wife of my son William," in his will, April 20, 1574 (P.C.C.). William was born at the mansion house of Farley Chamberlayne on Aug. 1, 1538, as a younger son of Sir John St. John, Kt. (b. 1505, d. 1576), of Lydiard Tregoz in the co. of Wilts, an estate inherited from his great grandmother Margaret, daughter and eventual heir of John, 3rd Baron Beauchamp. She was first married to Sir John St. John, and secondly to John Beaufort (b. 1*04, d. 1444), Duke of Somerset, by
        whom she was mother of Margaret Beaufort, Countess of Richmond (mother of King Henry VII.).

        The St. Johns quartered Beauchamp, Iwardby, and Carew. The second quartering was for Joan, daughter of Sir John Iwardby,
        K.B., the heiress of Farley Chamberlayne, whose mother was Sanchia, daughter of Sir

        * The date 1588, given at 12 S. ii. 251, should
        be 1558, will P.C.C.

        Nicholas Carew of Beddington (a coheiress of her brother Nicholas). Sir John (William's father) was left as a tiny child in the care of his mother (Joan Iwardby) when his father, also Sir John St. John, went " beyond seas " to die in the wars of 1512.

        The little John, after the custom of those days, was sent to be brought up at Beddington, in the household of his mother's cousin
        Sir Richard Carew, whose daughter Margaret he married at an early age. She was the mother of his son and heir Nicholas, who
        inherited Lydiard Tregoz, while William, the son of his second wife Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Richard Whithill, was given Farley
        Chamberlayne, a place William evidently loved. In his will, made on March 31, 1608,* William desired " to be buried in the church
        of Farley St. John,alias Farley Chamberlayne, where I was born, on the 1st of August, 1538," and desired that a monument should
        be erected over his remains. He lies under an altar tomb within the chancel, where his effigy, in full armour, represents him as a
        tall man. The long inscription is now illegible, but the arms are clearly to be discerned : St. John, quartering Beauchamp, Iwardby, and Carew, impaling Gore of Aldrington, co. Wilts. On the margin of his (original) will is a note, dated Feb. 9, 1613 :

        " A commission issued to Henry St. John, the son, to administer the goods of Barbara St. John, now deceased."

        In the will of the aforesaid Henry, dated November, 1614 (and proved 1621, P.C.C.), he directed that " a monument be erected in Wonstoii Church at the upper end of the seat, on the right hand side as you go up, where lyeth bulled my good mother, buried in one grave and at one time with her sister, Mr. Leonard Ely's wife." The burial register has the entry :

        " Thursday, Jan. 3rd, 1613, Margaret, wife of Leonard Ely, Esq., was buryed on the same day and in the same grave with Barbara, ye widow of William Sainte John, Esquire." A Leonard Ely was buried in that church in 1615, and another Leonard was there married in 1616 to Barbara Spencer. Also Dorothy daughter of Leonard Ely married Edmard Tutt of Chilbolton, who was living in 1623, and was cousin of that Sir Alexander Tutt, Kt., of Idmiston, Wilts, who witnessed the will of William St. John in 1608, and figures in the pedigree of the Halswells. Of the Elys very little is definitely known beyond the fact that the " distinguished preacher and upholder of the Reformed

        * Proved June 27, 1609, P.C.C. Dorset 64.

        religion, Michael Rermiger," is said to have married the sister of Leonard Ely. Michael Renniger (b. 1530, d. 1609) was presented
        to the rectory of Broughton (next Nether Wallop) in 1552 by Robert Renniger, and to that of Crawley, near Winchester, in 1560. He was buried in the latter church on Aug. 26, 1609, aged 79, having been the rector for all but fifty years.

        Thomas Ely, brother-in-law of William Gore, and trustee of his will (v. Chancery suit, 1592),* matriculated at Brasenose College, Oxford, in July, 1578, aged 23, was vicar of Wansborough, Wilts, and of Nether Wallop from 1587 to 1615, and Canon of Sarum, 1604. Mr. Pitman says :

        " He purchased a manor in Nether Wallop in 1593, and held it until his death in 1615; his will was proved in the P.C.C. in that year He was ^succeeded by his younger son Thomas Ely, who was buried at Overton in 1630, leaving an infant son and heir, Thomas Ely."

        There is still much relating to the early St. Johns, Gores, Elys, and Stewkeleys that local genealogists desire to know to complete
        their pedigrees, but so much has recently transpired by the help of the readers of * N. & Q.' that they may begin to hope that
        " all things come to those who wait."

        F. H. S.