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St. John, Oliver

Male Abt 1508 - 1571


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  • Born  Abt 1508  England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender  Male 
    Buried  19 Apr 1571  St Marys, Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID  I01881  My Genealogy
    Last Modified  16 Jun 2015 

    Father  St. John, John,   b. Abt 1473, Of Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1 Sep 1512, Fontarabia, Guipauzcoa, Spain Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother  Iwardby, Jane,   b. Abt 1485, Of Great Purley, Berkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 5 Sep 1553, Of Purley, Berkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  Abt 1498  England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID  F00118  Group Sheet

    Family 1  Anne,   d. Bef 1559, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID  F02496  Group Sheet

    Family 2  Joan,   b. Abt 1530, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 29 Oct 1562, St Martin Orgar and St Clement Cheapside, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  03 Jul 1559  St Margaret's, Westminster, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. St. John, Oliver,   c. 2 Oct 1560, St Margaret's, Westminster, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1561, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    >2. St. John, Oliver,   c. 15 Jul 1561, St Mary's Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1615
    Family ID  F02497  Group Sheet

    Family 3  Roydon, Alice,   b. Abt 1545, Of Roydon, East Peckham, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 19 Aug 1566, St Mary's Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  03 Aug 1563  Croydon, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. St. John, Honor,   c. 25 Jul 1566, St Martin Orgar and St Clement Cheapside, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 26 Oct 1566, St Mary's, Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location
    Family ID  F02495  Group Sheet

    Family 4  Burbage, Eleanor,   b. Abt 1528, Of Hayes, Middlesex, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1574, St Marys, Lambeth, Surrey, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  10 Jul 1567  St Bartholomew the Great, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. St. John, Susan,   d. Aft 1571
    Family ID  F02498  Group Sheet

  • Notes 
    • Will of Oliver St John of Lambeth, Surrey 24 April 1571 PROB 11/53

      THE FAMILY OF ST JOHN OF LAMBETH BY CHARLES F. H. EVANS, F.S.A.
      .....Oliver St John, of Lambeth, Surrey, esquire, P.C.C. 18 Holney.
      Will dated 11 and proved 24 April 1571 by executrix, his wife Ellynor. Testator bequeaths to his son Oliver St John the lease of his house in London near Paul's Wharf, after the death of his wife ; and to his daughter Suzan St John the profits of lands held of the Dean and Chapter of Canterbury. Bequests to his base daughter Ann St John; and to his daughter-in-law Marye Henbury 10 on her marriage, or when aged twenty, so presumably she was his stepdaughter.
      Testator mentions the children of Thomas Edmondes, of Southampton, borne of the body of Elleyne his wife, one of the daughters of the testator's first wife Anne Stokes.

      ...Oliver St John, second son of Sir John St John and Jane Ewarby, was seated at Lambeth, Surrey, and married Margaret Love, of Winchelsea, Sussex; and they had three sons: 1. Sir Oliver St John; 2. Nicholas St John, seated at Winchelsea; 3. John St John. John Love, merchant, Mayor of Winchelsea in 1563 and 1567, in his will dated 26 March 1593, bequeaths to his son St John and Margaret his wife (testator's daughter) various lands and tenements, and 'the house which he now dwelleth in in Winchelsea,' ... This Oliver St John cannot be the one whose will has previously been noticed, as the latter died in 1571, twenty-two years before the Mayor of Winchelsea made his will. Probably the generations have been muddled up. The pedigree can be checked against the excellent, annotated, pedigree of St John in the Wiltshire Visitation Pedigrees, 1623.
      John St John, of Lydiard Tregoz, by Jane Ewarby, had two sons: John St John, of Lydiard Tregoz, who died 5 April 1576, and Oliver St John, who had a son and heir Oliver St John. No further information is vouchsafed as to these Olivers, who may have been the Lambeth ones. The first John St John died in 1512, and his elder son John was born in 1505, it is probable that the younger son Oliver was born not later than 1510. Further Surrey clues are the marriage at Croydon, 3 August 1563, of Master Olyver Sent John, Squyer, and Maystrise Alice Heron, widow. Also the references in the Lambeth Churchwardens' Accounts to Oliver St John, who was recently dead 1570/1; and to his widow Eleanor, whose grave is referred to in 1574, when she was recently dead. I suggest the following pedigree; with the proviso that though I believe each individual fact to be correct, the piecing together of the facts may be completely wrong.
      Sir John St John, of Lydiard Tregoze, Wilts, died 1 September 1512, leaving by his wife Jane Iwardby two sons: John St John, of Lydiard Tregoze, died 5 April 1576, and Oliver St John, of Lambeth, Surrey. Oliver St John, of Lambeth, was born about 1510, and buried at St Mary's, Lambeth, 19 April 1571. He married:

      1. Anne. He was her second husband. She married first Stokes, by whom she had a daughter Elleyne Stokes, the wife of Thomas Edmondes of Southampton. baptized at St Margaret's, Westminster, 28 October 1548, and a daughter Mary Henbury, baptized there 18 February 1554, and maybe other children who occur in the registers. Joan married secondly, at St Margaret's, Westminster, 16 April 1554, Robert Smallewoode, gentleman, who was buried at St Margaret's, Westminster, 8 January 1559; by whom she had a daughter Wenefride Smallewoode, baptized at St Margaret's, Westminster, 6 August 1555, and a son John Smallewoode, baptized there 8 December 1556. Robert Smallewoode's son Robert Smallewoode was probably by a previous marriage, and his daughter Margaret Smallewoode certainly was, as she was already married to Mr Edward Norrys in 1558; Margaret Smallewoode, who was buried at St Margaret's, Westminster, 19 January 1552, was perhaps their mother.

      2. Joan, at St Margaret's, Westminster, 3 July 1559. He was her third husband. She married first Henbury, probably William Henbury, who was buried at St Margaret's, Westminster, 31 August 1553; by whom she had a son William Henbury, By Oliver St John Joan was the mother of Oliver St John, baptized at St Margaret's, Westminster, 2 October 1560, who presumably died an infant; and of Oliver St John, baptized at St Mary's, Lambeth, 15 July 1561, and later described as 'the younger,' and 'Black Oliver.' John St John, buried at St Margaret's, Westminster, 24 September 1563, may have been another infant child. Joan, 'Maistresse Senion,' was buried at St Mary's, Lambeth, 29 October 1562.

      3. Alice, at Croydon, 3 August 1563. He was her second husband. She married first William Heron, J. P., of Addiscombe, Surrey, who died s. p. 4 January 1563. There were, brasses to them, and also to his parents, in Croydon Church. By Oliver St John Alice was the mother of Honoria St John, baptized at St Mary's, Lambeth, 25 July 1566, and buried there 26 October 1566. Alice St John was buried at St Mary's, Lambeth, 19 August 1566.

      4. Eleanor Burbage, at St Bartholomew the Less, 10 July 1567; a daughter of Thomas Burbage, of Hayes, Middlesex. He was her third husband; and an Anthony Burbage, probably her uncle, was a witness to his will. By Oliver St John Eleanor had a daughter Susan St John; possibly the Susan St John who was buried at St Margaret's, Westminster, 26 February 1621. Eleanor married first her cousin Henry Windsor, of Harting, Sussex, gentleman, at St Margaret's, Westminster, 20 January 1543, where he was buried 25 September 1553; secondly Hugh Partridge; and fourthly Bonetti Rocco. Bonetti Rocco is said to have been an Italian gentleman; a fencing master; a servant in the household of Robert, Earl of Leicester; and later a courier to the French agent in Scotland. Eleanor Rocco was recently dead in 1574, and buried at St Mary's, Lambeth.
      It is curious that if the above account is correct Oliver St John had three wives with nine husbands between them, four legitimate children and one bastard, after he was fifty. How many further wives besides Anne Stokes may have been packed into his earlier life there is no telling.

      Nicholas St John, eldest son of Oliver St John, presumably Oliver St John, the younger, of Lambeth, of Winchelsea, and of Marlborough, Wilts, was baptized at St Mary's, Lambeth, 15 July 1561. He married:
      1. Margaret Love, at Wonston, Hants, 2 June 1588; the daughter and co-heiress of John Love, Mayor of Winchelsea. She was buried at St Mary the Virgin, Marlborough, 19 September 1606. They had three sons:
      1. Nicholas St John, the eldest, who was of age 10 May 1608;
      2. Sir Oliver St John;
      3. John St John. These younger sons were still minors 5 May 1615, when their father was living at Marlborough and their mother was dead.

      2. A lady described as 'Mrs St John, wife of Mr Oliver St John,' who was buried at St Mary the Virgin, Marlborough, 3 April 1608. She may well have been the Jane Nicholas whom Oliver St John, esquire, married at St Dunstan's in the West, London, 14 February 1607. In that case Jane Nicholas may have been his cousin Jane St John, widow of Robert Nicholas, of Manningford, Wilts, who died in 1602, and by whom she had a daughter Catherine Nicholas, wife of Sir Thomas Brodrick, of Wandsworth, Surrey.


      Oliver St John, the younger, was probably 'Black' Oliver St John who, in April 1615, was sentenced in the Star Chamber to a fine of 5,000 and lifelong imprisonment for writing a letter to the Mayor of Marlborough, dissuading him and the inhabitants of that town from contributing to a benevolence. After making a full submission he was released, and had his fine remitted. It appears
      from his trial that he was a member of Lincoln's Inn, and a leading inhabitant of Marlborough. He has been confused with his cousin and namesake the Chief Justice. He was not buried at Marlborough, and the date of his death is unknown.

      Nicholas St John, eldest son of Oliver St John, presumably inherited the property at Winchelsea; and he may possibly be the Nicholas St John, of Lydiard Tregoze, who married 13 June 1614 Alice Goddard. If so, he was still alive in 1642 when he witnessed the will of his brother-in-law Vincent Goddard. Nicholas St John of Marlborough was assessed at 14 in the Wiltshire Commission (1630-1) for Composition of Knighthood. In 1639 Nicholas St John owned Watlands Farm in Rye Foreign, Sussex, which in 1668 belonged to his widow.