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Neate, John Thomas

Male 1795 - 1866


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  • Christened  3 Apr 1795  St James, Westminster, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender  Male 
    Buried  14 Mar 1866  St Marylebone, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID  I00466  My Genealogy
    Last Modified  10 Jun 2015 

    Father  Neate, John,   b. Abt. 1764, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1831, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship  Birth 
    Mother  Ann,   d. Abt 1841, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Relationship  Birth 
    Married  Abt 1793  England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID  F00254  Group Sheet

    Family  Moore, Elizabeth,   c. 23 Nov 1804, Horsted Keynes, Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1855, Hendon, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  07 Nov 1819  St. Marylebone, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID  F00255  Group Sheet

  • Notes 
    • 1841 Census: Duke Street, St Marylebone, London, England:
      John Neate 45 years Pawnbroker Yes born in county
      Elizabeth 35 years No
      Elizabeth 20 years Yes
      Caroline 15 years Yes
      John 15 years Law Clerk Yes
      Emma 3 years Yes


      1851 Census: Harrow on the Hill, Berkshire, England:
      John Thomas Neate abt 1796 Westminster, St James, Middlesex, England Head Silversmith Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
      Mary Ann abt 1846 Kenton, Middlesex, England Daughter Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
      Mary Attenborough abt 1821 Blakesley, Northamptonshire, England Visitor Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
      Jane Eversden abt 1819 Everdon, Cambridgeshire, England Servant Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
      Alice Neate abt 1843 St Marylebone, London, England Daughter Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
      Charles Neate abt 1829 St Marylebone, London, England Son Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
      Elizabeth Neate abt 1803 Horsted Keynes, Sussex, England Wife Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
      Emma Neate abt 1839 St Marylebone, London, England Daughter Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
      Jane Neate abt 1831 St Marylebone, London, England Daughter Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
      John Neate abt 1825 St Marylebone, London, England Son Solicitor Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
      Louisa Neate abt 1845 St Marylebone, London, England Daughter Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
      Mary Abbott abt 1835 Barking, Essex, England Servant Harrow on the Hill Berkshire




      National Archives:
      FILE - Policy register - ref. MS 11936/501 - date: 1824-1825
      item: [no title] - ref. MS 11936/501/1035575 - date: 14 September 1825
      [from Scope and Content] Insured: John Thomas Neate 39, 40 and 41 Duke Street Manchester Square pawnbroker

      According to Annes' pedigree he is John Thomas, Pawnbroker of Dukes Street, Manchester Square, London. Living 1840. Married with at least three daughters and two sons according to Anne.

      "Pawnbrokers Charitable Institution"
      SOURCE: The Charities of London, by Samuel Low, Jun., London: Sampson Low, Son, and Marston, Milton House, Ludgate Hill, 1861.
      Benevolent and Provident Pension Funds
      Pawnbrokers' Charitable Institution New London Hotel, Bridge Street, Blackfriars, established 1823, for providing almshouses and pensions for the aged and necessitous of the trade, and assistance of a temporary character, without regard to age. Every man and wife in the almshouses receive annually 26 and coals; a single man, 20; a single woman, 18.
      Income for the past year about 900.
      Treasurer, John Thomas Neate, Esq. Hon. Secretary, C. H. Wharton, Esq."

      Possibility?
      There is a death of a John T Neate, aged 71 years at Marylebone in 1866

      There is a marriage of a John Neate and Elizabeth Moore at St Marylebone in 1818?
      Also a Mary Neate and a John Norris the same year?
      Also Caroline Neate and a John Scott in 1818?
      His grandson is the Percy J. Neate of Hampstead mentioned in Alfred N. Neates letters of the 1930's.

      Is this the same family for Percy?-seems more connected to the Jeweller/Curiosity Dealer:

      Census
      Henry R. NEATE Head M Male 30 St Luke, Middlesex, England Jeweller (Journeyman)
      Mary A. NEATE Wife M Female 26 Hackney, Middlesex, England
      Henry W. NEATE Son Male 8 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Scholar
      Emily A. NEATE Daur Female 3 St Luke, Middlesex, England Scholar
      Frederick W. NEATE Son Male 2 St Luke, Middlesex, England
      Percy G. NEATE Son Male 6 m St Luke, Middlesex, England


      Two marriage of John Neate to Elizabeth in London on Pallots (John Neate & Eliz James) in 1810 and 1805(John Neate & Eliz Miller) John Neate & Elizabeth Moore 1818 St. Marylebone


      1861 Census: Duke Street, Marylebone, England:
      Person: NEATE, John T
      Address: , 39 & 40, Duke Street
      NEATE, John T Head Widower M 66 Pawnbroker And Silversmith London Middlesex
      NEATE, Caroline Daug. Unm F 39 London
      NEATE, Eliza Daug. Unm F 34 London Middlesex
      NEATE, Jane Daug. Unm F 30 London Middlesex
      NEATE, Emma C Daug. Unm F 22 London Middlesex
      NEATE, Alice G Daug. Unm F 18 London Middlesex
      NEATE, Louisa C Daug. Unm F 16 London Middlesex
      ATTENBOROUGH, Mary Visitor Unm F 42 Fundholder Blakesley Northamptonshire
      KITCHENER, Elizabeth Serv. Unm F 26 Cook Huntsworth Hertfordshire
      WARDE, Elizabeth Servant Unm F 26 General Servant Bury St Edmunds Suffolk
      FEARS, William T Servant Unm M 16 Page Hitchin Hertfordshire
      STADER, Arthur W Servant Unm M 19 Pawnbrokers Shopman Lambeth Surrey
      WALLIS, Alfred G Servant Unm M 16 Pawnbrokers Shopman London Middlesex
      PARKER, Alfred B Servant Unm M 14 Pawnbrokers Shopman Brighton Sussex
      Registration number:
      RG09 Piece:
      75 Folio:
      67 Page:20
      Registration District:
      Marylebone Sub District:
      Rectory Enumeration District:
      9 Ecclesiastical District:St Thomas
      Parish: St Marylebone City/Municipal Borough:
      Marylebone Address:, 39 & 40, Duke Street



      Holden Directory 1805-1807
      Neate and Hinston, Pawnbrokers, 20 Carnaby Street, Golden Square
      Neate, John, cabinet maker, Somerstown
      Neate, Daniel, Tailor, Battersea
      Neate, James, Bread and Biscuit Maker
      Neate, Stephen, Butcher


      1819 London Post Office Directory
      William Neate, Silversmith, Sweetings Lane, Cornhill


      1846 London Directory
      John Thomas Neate, pawnbroker, 40 Duke Street, Manchester Square

      Any connection?
      Charles Neate, professor of music, Manchester Square
      Alfred Neate, furniture broker
      Charles Edward Neate, Coal and Corn Merchant and House Agent
      George Neate, Baker
      Richard Neate, Beer Retailer

      Check 1861 Census-might be at Rectory, Marylebone. Silversmith and Pawn Broker