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    Neate, John Thomas

    Male 1795 - 1866  (~ 70 years)


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    • Name Neate, John Thomas 
      Christened 3 Apr 1795  St James, Westminster, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
      Gender Male 
      Buried 14 Mar 1866  St Marylebone, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
      Person ID I00466  My Genealogy
      Last Modified 10 Jun 2015 

      Father Neate, John,   b. Abt. 1764, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1831, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 68 years) 
      Relationship Birth 
      Mother Ann,   d. Abt 1841, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
      Relationship Birth 
      Married Abt 1793  England Find all individuals with events at this location 
      Family ID F00254  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

      Family Moore, Elizabeth,   c. 23 Nov 1804, Horsted Keynes, Sussex, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1855, Hendon, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 50 years) 
      Married 07 Nov 1819  St. Marylebone, London, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
      Family ID F00255  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    • Notes 
      • 1841 Census: Duke Street, St Marylebone, London, England:
        John Neate 45 years Pawnbroker Yes born in county
        Elizabeth 35 years No
        Elizabeth 20 years Yes
        Caroline 15 years Yes
        John 15 years Law Clerk Yes
        Emma 3 years Yes


        1851 Census: Harrow on the Hill, Berkshire, England:
        John Thomas Neate abt 1796 Westminster, St James, Middlesex, England Head Silversmith Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
        Mary Ann abt 1846 Kenton, Middlesex, England Daughter Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
        Mary Attenborough abt 1821 Blakesley, Northamptonshire, England Visitor Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
        Jane Eversden abt 1819 Everdon, Cambridgeshire, England Servant Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
        Alice Neate abt 1843 St Marylebone, London, England Daughter Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
        Charles Neate abt 1829 St Marylebone, London, England Son Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
        Elizabeth Neate abt 1803 Horsted Keynes, Sussex, England Wife Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
        Emma Neate abt 1839 St Marylebone, London, England Daughter Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
        Jane Neate abt 1831 St Marylebone, London, England Daughter Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
        John Neate abt 1825 St Marylebone, London, England Son Solicitor Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
        Louisa Neate abt 1845 St Marylebone, London, England Daughter Harrow on the Hill Berkshire
        Mary Abbott abt 1835 Barking, Essex, England Servant Harrow on the Hill Berkshire




        National Archives:
        FILE - Policy register - ref. MS 11936/501 - date: 1824-1825
        item: [no title] - ref. MS 11936/501/1035575 - date: 14 September 1825
        [from Scope and Content] Insured: John Thomas Neate 39, 40 and 41 Duke Street Manchester Square pawnbroker

        According to Annes' pedigree he is John Thomas, Pawnbroker of Dukes Street, Manchester Square, London. Living 1840. Married with at least three daughters and two sons according to Anne.

        "Pawnbrokers Charitable Institution"
        SOURCE: The Charities of London, by Samuel Low, Jun., London: Sampson Low, Son, and Marston, Milton House, Ludgate Hill, 1861.
        Benevolent and Provident Pension Funds
        Pawnbrokers' Charitable Institution New London Hotel, Bridge Street, Blackfriars, established 1823, for providing almshouses and pensions for the aged and necessitous of the trade, and assistance of a temporary character, without regard to age. Every man and wife in the almshouses receive annually £26 and coals; a single man, £20; a single woman, £18.
        Income for the past year about £900.
        Treasurer, John Thomas Neate, Esq. Hon. Secretary, C. H. Wharton, Esq."

        Possibility?
        There is a death of a John T Neate, aged 71 years at Marylebone in 1866

        There is a marriage of a John Neate and Elizabeth Moore at St Marylebone in 1818?
        Also a Mary Neate and a John Norris the same year?
        Also Caroline Neate and a John Scott in 1818?
        His grandson is the Percy J. Neate of Hampstead mentioned in Alfred N. Neates letters of the 1930's.

        Is this the same family for Percy?-seems more connected to the Jeweller/Curiosity Dealer:

        Census
        Henry R. NEATE Head M Male 30 St Luke, Middlesex, England Jeweller (Journeyman)
        Mary A. NEATE Wife M Female 26 Hackney, Middlesex, England
        Henry W. NEATE Son Male 8 Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England Scholar
        Emily A. NEATE Daur Female 3 St Luke, Middlesex, England Scholar
        Frederick W. NEATE Son Male 2 St Luke, Middlesex, England
        Percy G. NEATE Son Male 6 m St Luke, Middlesex, England


        Two marriage of John Neate to Elizabeth in London on Pallots (John Neate & Eliz James) in 1810 and 1805(John Neate & Eliz Miller) John Neate & Elizabeth Moore 1818 St. Marylebone


        1861 Census: Duke Street, Marylebone, England:
        Person: NEATE, John T
        Address: , 39 & 40, Duke Street
        NEATE, John T Head Widower M 66 Pawnbroker And Silversmith London Middlesex
        NEATE, Caroline Daug. Unm F 39 London
        NEATE, Eliza Daug. Unm F 34 London Middlesex
        NEATE, Jane Daug. Unm F 30 London Middlesex
        NEATE, Emma C Daug. Unm F 22 London Middlesex
        NEATE, Alice G Daug. Unm F 18 London Middlesex
        NEATE, Louisa C Daug. Unm F 16 London Middlesex
        ATTENBOROUGH, Mary Visitor Unm F 42 Fundholder Blakesley Northamptonshire
        KITCHENER, Elizabeth Serv. Unm F 26 Cook Huntsworth Hertfordshire
        WARDE, Elizabeth Servant Unm F 26 General Servant Bury St Edmunds Suffolk
        FEARS, William T Servant Unm M 16 Page Hitchin Hertfordshire
        STADER, Arthur W Servant Unm M 19 Pawnbrokers Shopman Lambeth Surrey
        WALLIS, Alfred G Servant Unm M 16 Pawnbrokers Shopman London Middlesex
        PARKER, Alfred B Servant Unm M 14 Pawnbrokers Shopman Brighton Sussex
        Registration number:
        RG09 Piece:
        75 Folio:
        67 Page:20
        Registration District:
        Marylebone Sub District:
        Rectory Enumeration District:
        9 Ecclesiastical District:St Thomas
        Parish: St Marylebone City/Municipal Borough:
        Marylebone Address:, 39 & 40, Duke Street



        Holden Directory 1805-1807
        Neate and Hinston, Pawnbrokers, 20 Carnaby Street, Golden Square
        Neate, John, cabinet maker, Somerstown
        Neate, Daniel, Tailor, Battersea
        Neate, James, Bread and Biscuit Maker
        Neate, Stephen, Butcher


        1819 London Post Office Directory
        William Neate, Silversmith, Sweetings Lane, Cornhill


        1846 London Directory
        John Thomas Neate, pawnbroker, 40 Duke Street, Manchester Square

        Any connection?
        Charles Neate, professor of music, Manchester Square
        Alfred Neate, furniture broker
        Charles Edward Neate, Coal and Corn Merchant and House Agent
        George Neate, Baker
        Richard Neate, Beer Retailer

        Check 1861 Census-might be at Rectory, Marylebone. Silversmith and Pawn Broker