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    St. John, Oliver

    Male Abt 1425 - 1497  (~ 72 years)


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    • Name St. John, Oliver 
      Born Abt 1425  Of Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
      Gender Male 
      Buried 1497  Stoke Rocheford, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
      Died 3 Apr 1497  Fontarabia, Guipauzcoa, Spain Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
      Person ID I00217  My Genealogy
      Last Modified 11 Sep 2012 

      Father St. John, knight Oliver,   b. Abt 1398, Of Penmark, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 4 Mar 1437, Rouen, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 39 years) 
      Mother Beauchamp, Lady Margaret,   b. Abt 1410, Of Bletsoe, Bedfordshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 Aug 1482, Wimborne, Dorset, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 72 years) 
      Married Abt 1425  England Find all individuals with events at this location 
      Family ID F00132  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

      Family Scrope, Lady Elizabeth,   b. Abt 1438, Of Bolton, Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 12 Jun 1503, Stoke Rocheford, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 65 years) 
      Married Abt 1470  England Find all individuals with events at this location 
      Children 
       1. St. John, Henry,   b. Of Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [Natural]
       2. St. John, Oliver,   b. Of Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [Natural]
       3. St. John, Margaret,   b. Of Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [Natural]
       4. St. John, Sibil,   b. England Find all individuals with events at this location,   bur. 1 Jul 1493, Stroke Rocheford, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location
       5. St. John, Elizabeth,   b. Abt 1472, Of Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 28 Jun 1516, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 44 years)
      +6. St. John, Sir John,   b. Abt 1473, Of Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1 Sep 1512, Fontarabia, Guipauzcoa, Spain Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 39 years)
      Family ID F00122  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    • Notes 
      • Inherited Lydiard Tregoze, Wiltshire
        Squire to the Margaret Beauforet
        Tomb at Fort Lincoln, Linconshire, England

        Will of Oliver Saint John 10 April 1497 PROB 11/11

        Will of Oliver St.John, copied from 'Testamenta
        Vetusta', Nicolas, London 1826.

        Oliver St.John, Esq.
        In the name of God Amen. This is the laste will of me Olyver Seynt John, Esquyer, sonne to the excellent Dutchesse of Somersett. First, I bequeath my sowle to Almighty God, and to our Lady Seynt Mary, and to the Saynts of Heven; and my body to be buried in the quier afore Saynt Andrew, in the parish Church of Stoke. Also I will, that my wife have, duryng her life, all my lands and tenements in Legeard Tregoes, and Polton, with the manor of Borwode and Whatfild-hall, which is myne by the resonne and gift of my Lady my modre, with a place which I purchased in the lordshippe of Hacksmore, called Hillisthing, in Dorsetshire; also I will, that my wife have all suche landes as be myne, by the reason and gift of the Kynge's grace, at Hatfield Peverall, with the ternyns and wayes south, with Depford and Depford Strond, otherwise called West Greenwich; also I will, that she have the lordeship of Garseynton; and that after her decease all the foresaid lordshippes, landes, and tenements, return unto my sonne John, and to his heirs; also I will, that my wife have the lordeship of Lollam, the which I purchased to give and sell, as in fee simple; moreover I will, that Rauf Rochford have all suche landes and tenements as I purchased within the lordeship of Sowth Stoke and North Stoke; also I will, that my wife have all my goodes for the helth of my sowle, as she thinks best. Thees being witnesses, Master Richard Bullok, John Writh, Henry Bigote, and Rauf Rochford, with other yeomen; and made the second daye of Marche, in the year of oure Lord God MCCCCLXXXXVI'

        In a footnote, the testator is described as 'Second son of Oliver St.John, of Lydiard Tregoze, by Margaret, daughter of Sir John de Beauchamp, and sister and sole heir of John Lord Beauchamp, of Bletsho; the said Margaret married, secondly, John Beaufort, Duke of Somerset, K.G. and her daughter by him was the mother of King Henry VII.; her third husband was Lionel Lord Welles.'


        STOKE ROCHEFORD, LINCOLNSHIRE SS Mary and Andrew
        II. Oliver St. John and his wife Elizabeth M.S. II V sto-r 1503
        London: "G" series 1
        Effigies of Master Oliver St. John, Esquire, in armor, son of the Duchess of Somerset, and his wife Dame Elizabeth Bygod, 1503, with five sons and three daughters, with two shields, symbol of St. Luke, and English inscription. Relaid on the floor of the chancel.
        On this brass commemorating Oliver St. John and his wife Elizabeth and laid on the death of the latter, the armored effigy of St. John, clean-shaven and with hair to the shoulders ...To the right, Elizabeth St. John wears the pedimental headdress, its stiff frontlet forming an inverted "V" over her forehead, its lappets falling below the shoulders, and its cap enclosing the hair at the back of the head. Her dress has a high neck, fitted bodice with turned-back cuffs faced with fur, and a full skirt. A wide belt is buckled in front, its loose end reaching almost to the ground.
        Below these effigies are small plates with figures of the couple's three daughters and five sons, probably relaid incorrectly....

        At the very bottom of the slab is a narrow rectangular plate inscribed in black letter with the following three lines. It, too, has been transposed in relaying and should be placed below the major effigies and above the plates with the children.

        "Pray for the soll of Mastyr Olyv' Sent John sqwier sonne un to ye Right excellent hye & myghty prynces duchess of Som'sete g'ndame un to our sovreyn lorde kynge herre the vijth and for the soll of dame Elizabeth Bygod his wiff who dep'tid frome this t'nsitere liffe ye xij day of June i ye jere of our lord M CCCCC and iij

        ... In the first quarter, St. John: A bend, on the chief two mullets (stars); in the second, Scrope (Elizabeth's family): Azure, a bend Or; in the third, an engrailed cross; and in the fourth Rochforth (?): a quartered field with a bordure of bezants or roundels.
        ... Oliver St. John married Elizabeth, the daughter of Henry, Lord Scrope of Bolton, described on the brass as Elizabeth Bygod. Actually, she was the widow of Sir John Bygod, a knight killed with his father at the battle of Townton in 1461. After his death, she married Henry Rochforth, Esquire, who died in 1470 and is buried in this church (q.v.). By his marriage to Elizabeth, St. John acquired the manor of Stoke. If the brass is correct, the couple had five sons and three daughters, one of whom, Sibil (d. 1 July 1493) is buried in this church. Actually, Elizabeth was to outlive her third husband, for Oliver St. John died at Fontarabia in Spain. He is, however, buried at Stoke Rocheford According to the inscription, Elizabeth died on 12 June 1503.

        BIBLIOGRAPHY
        Brooke-Little, J.P. Boutell's Heraldry. Rev. ed. London: Frederick Warne and Company, Ltd., 1973.
        Jeans, G.E. A List of the Existing Sepulchral Brasses in Lincolnshire. 1895. Part II is the Vol. 2 of Lincolnshire Notes and Queries.
        Norris, Malcolm. Monumental Brasses: The Memorials. 2 vols. London: Phillips and
        Page, 1977.


        National Archives:
        Chancery: Inquisitions Post Mortem, Series II, and... C 142/13/57 Oliver Seynt John (St. John), esquire: Wiltshire. . Oliver Seynt John (St. John), esquire: Wiltshire.



    • Sources 
      1. [S00021] Leyland Iternary v1.27.
        Leyland describes him "Olyver Saynt John sonne to the excellent duchesse of Somerset" as " a blak and big felow that died at Forterabye in Spayne, when the late Marquise of Dorset was there"